首先是TSR，非常高兴TSR对于此事件的积极迅速的配合，让事件得到了公平的解决, 对于TSR的做法表示真挚感谢。
今后，希望大家都能够以此为经验，互相监督与保护，让sims世界少些纷争多些合作。
To TSR,
Hi, we are Lemonleaf and Watermelon.
We would like to thank you all for resolving the problem with Praline CCs.
We are are very grateful for that, as it is justice and hopefully it will give people, through this experience, more attention to this sort of matter.
For that we hope more respect comes for not only our creations but for all honest creators on the community.
Sincerely,
WM & LL
TSR connection address
http://www.thesimsresource.com/news/view-post/post/22085
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To Pralinesims,
We don't like fighting, but we don't like dishonest people either.
You lied, and even blame us for stealing from you, for then after a struggle try to apologize and be honest at the end.
We are very sorry, but we can't accept your apology, not from someone who do that.
We don't want to have any resentment over this, but it is not possible not to.
Sincerely,
WM & LL
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然后，对于Pralinesims，
你前前后后三个不同时间不同内容的帖子实在是无法让我们体会你的道歉诚意，虽然你最终修改了你的道歉贴。
我们需要的是一个真诚的，虚心的道歉。而不是三言两语想到什么说什么。
从你的天主教从不撒谎，从来没下载过我们的材质图，到你12岁的妹妹很伤心，到请律师反告我们。从你第一封对不起，但是从来没偷你们的材质图，到现在的借用过我们的材质图作为基础。
你真的有在认真想过你写的这些都是什么？
人在做，天在看，最后，我们也希望这是你发自内心的道歉。
Pralinesims first“ apology ” on the matter （ P第一次的道歉贴）
“ApologyAuthor:
Lemonleaf,,
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After
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Sincerly,
Pralinesims”
Pralinesims After the second revision of the apology posted （ P第二次修改后的道歉贴）
Lemonleaf,
We want to apologize to you for using your textures as an example.We regret it and we will never do that again, we are really sorry. We wanted to make good textures and i think it went just too far,i hope you can understand and forgive us!
I hope you will accept and understand my apologies and I hope everything will be the same between us again. Sincerly,
Pralinesims
Pralinesims After the second revision of the apology posted ：
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/Pralinesims/blog/view-post/post/22095
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E-mail From TSR to us,
Thomas O. Isaksson to WM :SU BA skrev 2011-09-14 19:51:
Hello,
Thank you for your E-mail. We hope that TSR really want to solve this problem.
We (Lemonleaf, Watermelon) requires TSR website within 24 hours to solve this problem.
Demand that the matter was thoroughly investigated in Pralinesims after a public apology to our.
We will announce our E-mails content in the 24 hours after.
We are waiting for TSR and Pralinesims reasonable answer on this matter.
Thank you.
Lemonleaf, Watermelon
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> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:32:19 +0200
> From: thomas@xxxxx.xx
> To: su-ba@xxxxx.xx
> Subject: Pralinesims and stolen work
>
> Hi there,
>
> We would like to resolve this issue with you as soon as possible. Please
> respond to this e-mail so I know this is the correct e-mail to send
> e-mails to.
>
> We will remove all work that can be proven stolen (or based on your
> work) - we just need your help in identifying them.
>
> Thank you,
> Thomas O. Isaksson
> The Sims Resource
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Cyclonesue to LL :
so now you'll unlock your creations download? *-*
ReplyDelete"We would like to thank you all for resolving the problem with Praline CCs.
ReplyDeleteWe are are very grateful for that, as it is justice and hopefully it will give people, through this experience, more attention to this sort of matter."
The problem isn't resolved. And it isn't justice -.-'
"For that we hope more respect comes for not only our creations but for all honest creators on the community."
You are the one that have to respect the people , asshole -.-'
"You lied , and even blame us for stealing from you , for then after a struggle try to apologize and be honest at the end."
You can't say that Praline lied because you are not her , asshole -.-'
And she obviously has been forced to do that , that apology doesn't exist.
"We (Lemonleaf, Watermelon) requires TSR website within 24 hours to solve this problem."
Let's see , who you think you are to demand anything , eh? YOU ARE NOBODY.
"Demand that the matter was thoroughly investigated in Pralinesims after a public apology to our."
For start , IF TSR WANTS TO INVESTIGATE THAT , first they have to investigate it , and then , if it results to be true , then IF PRALINE WANTS , so they apologize. BUT YOU AREN'T NOBODY TO DEMAND A PUBLIC APOLOGY FROM PRALINE AND OVER BEFORE THEY DO AN INVESTIGATION , ASSHOLE. AND OVER AFTER ALL YOU HAVE SLANDERED HER. What do you think you are? -.-'
"We are waiting for TSR and Pralinesims reasonable answer on this matter."
Praline already had answered you , and several times , asshole -.-'
And why don't you answer my email unfortunate? :S
Please have some respect. Ending every phrase with "Asshole -.-' " is really annoying, and frankly, it makes you look like an asshole. It also shows your inability to come up with better words.
ReplyDeleteWM and LL are talented CC creators, people who troll and make rude comments should stop attacking WM and LL, really, they didn't do anything wrong. If you don't like what they're writing, then don't read and don't comment.
I support WM and LL (:
I dont't understand this whole thing has no one heard of a watermark, that usually protects creators esp if you use Photoshop. I just wanted to download some CCs has LL and WM stop providing downloads if so why hold us as hostages??
ReplyDeleteSigned
Just an observer
I'm not surprised Lushness Sims is so upset.
ReplyDelete(S)he has edited Tifa's makeup in the past and re-uploaded it.
Lushness is a He. And he should watch his mouth. There's no need to be disrespectful in ANY situation...
ReplyDelete"Please have some respect. Ending every phrase with "Asshole -.-' " is really annoying, and frankly, it makes you look like an asshole. It also shows your inability to come up with better words."
ReplyDeleteThe ones that have to have respect are Lemonleaf and Watermelon. The thing that is really annoying is what they did , and frankly , it makes them (and you by saying that) look like an asshole. It also shows your inability to come up with common sense.
"really, they didn't do anything wrong."
Because you say it , right? :D
"If you don't like what they're writing, then don't read and don't comment."
Stop saying stupidities of little girl for God -.-'
"I'm not surprised Lushness Sims is so upset."
? :D
"(S)he has edited Tifa's makeup in the past and re-uploaded it."
What a bad person you are , eh?
But you can say whatever you want , the opinion of stupid people like you don't mind to me at all :D
First I edited Tifa's makeup giving him/her credit and I uploaded it :)
Second I don't re-uploaded anything , stupid -.-'
Third for what I was going to re-upload anything , eh? .l.
"And he should watch his mouth. There's no need to be disrespectful in ANY situation..."
The one that have to make that according to you , IS YOU. The one that have been disrespectful without any reason IS YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TO SLANDER MY NAME. Call me whatever 'cause your words don't mean a thing :(
"First I edited Tifa's makeup giving him/her credit and I uploaded it :)"
ReplyDeleteGuess what?
Tifa does not want ANYONE to edit her makeup. That includes you and me! You are being disrespectful to Tifa by doing that!
And it doesn't matter how many changes you made, Tifa is still the one who made 100% of the original work--it is considered a reupload.
But at least you admitted to editing someone else's work, unlike Praline...
@Lushness: you are obviously rude and agressive. But I totally understand it if what Jasumi said is true.
ReplyDelete@WM and LemonLeaf: Please please please come back!
"Tifa does not want ANYONE to edit her makeup. That includes you and me! You are being disrespectful to Tifa by doing that!"
ReplyDeleteAh no? And why he/she don't say anything? And why he/she doesn't make possible to comment on his/her creations (come on , made a avarage blog by God)?
"And it doesn't matter how many changes you made, Tifa is still the one who made 100% of the original work"
I'm not talking about that :S
"it is considered a reupload."
I already explained it to you.
"But at least you admitted to editing someone else's work, unlike Praline..."
-.-'
"@Nox:" You are obviously hateful and despicable ... :)
"Ah no? And why he/she don't say anything? And why he/she doesn't make possible to comment on his/her creations (come on , made a avarage blog by God)?"
ReplyDeleteLast month Tifa set her downloads to private so that only friends on naver can access her work. I imagine it's because people were sharing and editing her work and she got fed up.
I'm not trying to be mean to you, but you're attitude really stinks...
Lushness Sims, crediting someone means nothing. If you didn't get permission from the artist/creator, then you're in the wrong. Also, Tifa ALWAYS had a "Do not modify & redistribute my creation" underneath her avatar WRITTEN CLEARLY IN ENGLISH. It didn't magically show up one day. It's been there for years.
ReplyDeletePS. Showing that you edit someone else's work for Sims 3 shows a bad light on your part. If you don't know what I mean, then let me ask you this question: "Do you even have any creativity left in you or has it all dried up when you decided to edit her creations?" If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
And Jasumi, you're right. She did mention that people were editing and distributing her creations in one of her blog posts.
Please unlock ur stuff now plz? :))))
ReplyDeleteWatermelon, I hope you unlock your CCs at sometime. They are gorgeous and I am dying to use them. I'm sorry about people stealing your work, Praline is obviously not respectable.
ReplyDeleteWM and LL, I'm glad that this big melodrama ended with the truth coming out. I can only hope that as it was such a public event, everyone learned from it. Of course, it was startling to learn that I will never be able to try out content created by you, as one has to have private access to it - but I guess it's for the best if it makes you able to rest easy.
ReplyDeleteWhat a mess. The entire incident started rather ugly, most of it could have been avoided, but at least it ended with some civility. I think it was a good move on your part (LL and WM) to keep this entire ordeal public. Will it stop others from re-editing other people's creations? Maybe, but probably not entirely.
ReplyDeleteCreators of all kinds need to be respectable to other creators - always. When someone proves to be dishonest, disrespecting, and of a childish attitude, I do agree with LL/WM for not accepting the apology from Pralinesims. Maybe with time there can be forgiveness, but it's too soon, the wound too fresh.
No one can blame you for not wanting to share your creations. It hurts when someone takes something that you love to do, to give form to something that was only an idea in your head, that you had freely shared with the community, and then to have them twist that creation just so. Not only did they put a price on what YOU made, but claimed that they made it and that YOU are the one lying and had stolen their work? Think long and hard if you both decide to share your stuff again. Both of you, and your creations, are missed. The Sims 3 community can be a selfish lot, but not all are.
Glad things worked out to an extent, and should it happen again, you at least now have some experience in dealing with this.
Tout le monde pète un câble pour rien ici !
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ReplyDeleteBecause of this, you prevent access to files! Heck, who was lost much more users, especially with their beautiful creations!
ReplyDeleteI was very sad at not being able to get the downloads here are wonderful! Still, I have a favor to ask releases links to downloads, please! I understand your struggle, but we know the correct users and the work is all yours. Hugs and thanks for the respect and affection you have with us, the users field Watermelon Blog
"Last month Tifa set her downloads to private so that only friends on naver can access her work. I imagine it's because people were sharing and editing her work and she got fed up."
ReplyDeleteDon't tell me?
"I'm not trying to be mean to you, but you're attitude really stinks..."
I'm not here to talk with you , I'm here just to comment Watermelon's and Lemonleaf's post. I'm not trying to be mean with anybody , and the attitude that really stinks is yours.
"Lushness Sims, crediting someone means nothing. If you didn't get permission from the artist/creator, then you're in the wrong. Also, Tifa ALWAYS had a "Do not modify & redistribute my creation" underneath her avatar WRITTEN CLEARLY IN ENGLISH. It didn't magically show up one day. It's been there for years."
1- If I can't comment in Tifa's blog , then either way , I can't ask her for permission , so worse for her.
2- Yes? If that is true , I didn't see it. And in Tifa's blog NOTHING is clear -.-'
And if so , what? I would have done anyway. What I've said before of the comments.
Years? Lol.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
:S
"And Jasumi, you're right. She did mention that people were editing and distributing her creations in one of her blog posts."
xD
"Of course, it was startling to learn that I will never be able to try out content created by you, as one has to have private access to it - but I guess it's for the best if it makes you able to rest easy."
Pffh xD
"I'm not trying to be mean with anybody , and the attitude that really stinks is yours."
ReplyDelete^Really? You're the one who came up here "asshole" this, "asshole" that. Hmmm sounds pretty "mean" tome.
If anyone has an attitude it's obviously you.
"AFTER ALL YOU HAVE SLANDERED HER"
Ehhh we went over this with Shyne, what LL and WM did was not slander. Take a journalist writing class, learn all about it.
Sad really because I've always thought the creators that do things on CStyles were better than this. Everytime I lurk around over there everyone seems so nice, and helpful.
Very friendly community.
Editing Tifa's work, and your nasty words, make me surprised you're a welcomed artist over there.
I'm glad this has come to a resolution. I'm sorry to see that your creations are still locked, but I feel that's your decision. I'm glad I was able to recover my sims files from my failed harddrive- your stuff is still there (and I recovered my own experiments with Sims CC!)!
ReplyDeleteAlso, CreativeD23- watermarks can be easily edited out by simply painting over them in any program. Usually, in my artwork, I would get around this by placing a small faint watermark inside the actual image where it can't be easily edited or cropped out, but you can't do that with CC. The watermark would appear on the texture in-game. If you mean more complex ways of applying watermarks, then ignore me. :)
"You're the one who came up here "asshole" this, "asshole" that."
ReplyDeleteI was commenting Lemonleaf's and Watermelon's post. What's the problem? :D
"what LL and WM did was not slander."
Of course that yes! xD
"Take a journalist writing class, learn all about it."
Are you saying that to Lemonleaf and Watermelon or to me?
"Sad really because I've always thought the creators that do things on CStyles were better than this."
"Editing Tifa's work, and your nasty words, make me surprised you're a welcomed artist over there."
Pffh. It's very sad that exists people like you :(
WM and LL's work is so beautiful! It's a shame that no one will ever be able to download the files. It's really mean to show all of your CC and not give anyone any access to it. It's like dangling a carrot in front of the horse!
ReplyDeleteIf your using blogger, there is a way to hide all those CC posts. It's a pain in the butt to do it, but at least we won't be frustrated that we cannot download your beautiful work. Just make those posts drafts and it will hide the posts.
Hi Subaxi..
ReplyDeleteI would like to get in touch with you or Lemon, please if you can give me an email or get in contact through my website:
sunsetsims.mustbedestroyed.org
Thanks a hug:)
WM and LL. Can I contact you please?
ReplyDeletehere http://www.modthesims.info/member.php?u=2027131
or here http://www.thesimsresource.com/members/victor-tor
or post me your contact e-mail.
I have a question to you, guys.
Thanks previously.
Vic
Heh. Looks like to me someone who troll here regularly have the intellect of a 3 year old. Lushness, I'm interested in hearing why you think the problem has not been resolved since TSR has indicated on their website that the decision to remove praline's works were made after thorough investigation by people in their own team. I guess in a sense, you are doubting the judgments by the TSR team? =)
ReplyDeleteOh! And while we are at it, I'm just going to sit back and see what better insults you could come up with other than the average second grade 'asshole' insult. Hah. Go ahead, entertain me, perhaps with a your mama joke or two. =)
Wow Lushness... You're beyond rude. I can't believe you really don't see an issue with how you talk to people?
ReplyDeleteAnother reason why I hate the Internet. People talk the talk but can't walk the walk. If you ask me you deserve a big slap in the face. Reality check honey... can't talk to people like that in real life.
Anyways, I'm very sorry Lemonleaf, I love your creations... Mostly your eyebrows. While it was very unfair what happened to you... It's also very unfair what you're doing to us. You're taking your wonderful creations from us, just like Praline was taking them from you.
Regardless I still respect you both and i'm sorry this ever happened ♥
西瓜大您好~您做物件非常的好~小弟我很想收藏但是貴站提供的載點好像都無法使用能提供新載點或是把物件能把E-MAIL給我嗎?
ReplyDeleteI would love to download some of your creations for use in my own sim game, would you please allow me to? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to say how glad I am you guys got an apology. You and LemonLeaf are so talented, and it's just wrong that someone would steal your stuff.
ReplyDeleteBut your fans respect and appreciate the beautiful work you do.
how can she be "inspired" on LL work if she (in her own words) "never downloaded or opened a LL file?"
ReplyDeletewhy people do this kind thing? :/
so now you'll unlock your creations download? +1
Hi i love your work and i really wand to download make up but in mediafire writting
ReplyDeleteThis file is currently set to private
how to do? :(
I understand how it feels to have someone steal the things you worked so hard on and then tell you that you did nothing at all...
ReplyDeleteI'm an artist (not a Sims 3 one though) and last year, I drew and inked and coloured this amazing picture, I was so proud.
Then one day, I look in my portfolio. Missing. I ask my friends, mother, brother. Nobody saw it. Then at my school's art competition, guess what picture I saw?
Yes, someone stole my beloved art, that I put many weeks of effort into, and it was my best picture I'd ever created.
So I'd like to believe I know how it feels, when really, I don't.
It's totally different.
But I would like to see your fabulous creations back up, especially your skins and eyebrows that we know you loved to create (only when people didn't take them on you >.<)
i'm very sad that this happened to you, i hope you're good.
ReplyDeleteHopefully i'm a CC obsessed girl and i have every single thing from thsi blog.
I hope someday you'll trust again in the sims 3 community.